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Kuyawa 2 hours ago [-]
The original title was "DeepSeek Harness Desktop app for MacOS and Windows"
This new title says nothing, we already know deepseek harness from before, this is a new product, an installable app worth differentiating from just "DeepSeek Harness"
Kuyawa 3 hours ago [-]
I just installed DeepSeek Harness for MacOS and it's a beast. The same great harness as before but now is an app you just click on your dock to run
All settings and workspaces are transferred so you don't lose anything, the only thing it lacks is a way to increase/decrease font size with cmd + and cmd - so I'll work on a plugin for that
I can't be happier
Edit: Asked DSH for a plugin to increase/decrease font and it delivered. Love it. Then asked for a plugin to ring a bell on questions and tasks finished, of course it delivered flawlessly. The same plugin architecture, extensible by the same AI
sroerick 10 minutes ago [-]
Deepseek harness seems good but this thread feels astroturfy
ycui7 2 hours ago [-]
you do can change font size in settings, but not with keyboard shortcut. for some reason, they decided to limit font size to 17 max.
Kuyawa 2 hours ago [-]
Do the same as I did, ask it to develop a plugin to increase/decrease font and you will see results in one single task, dsh-zoom as a plugin, restart and done
johng 3 hours ago [-]
Can you elaborate? What's better about it vs. other harnesses? What can it do that others can't?
I'm not sure what you mean by it's a beast.
cjbprime 1 hours ago [-]
It has particularly good observability (the ability to see the full content of every prompt and response and tool call) compared to other harnesses, that's the main thing that stood out to me.
Kuyawa 2 hours ago [-]
All LLMs work the same to a certain degree, it's a matter of personal preference, token cost and customization. I asked DSH to build a news aggregator for me and it built a really nice app from 30 news sources via rss feeds for less than 50 cents and presto, reading tech news has never been so gratifying
pylotlight 1 hours ago [-]
literally every harness can do that tho, that doesn't really answer the question.
zarmin 1 hours ago [-]
i read somewhere that it can write a plugin to change its font size
konart 31 minutes ago [-]
Pi can do this too.
ElProlactin 2 hours ago [-]
I wish there was a tool I could use to share my documents, activity, etc. directly with the world's major intelligence agencies.
A marketplace, where the different intelligence agencies could evaluate the value of my digital stuff and then offer me something (like a $5 gift card to Olive Garden), would be really nice.
postsantum 1 hours ago [-]
Yes! A real marketplace of ideas with automatic matching, like you can see who has the same ideas as you
Reminds me of some magic device from childrens book, don't remember its name, was like a glass ball where you could see what other people are up to
tobi_bsf 1 hours ago [-]
The chinese will go and suck in all of your laptop and everything else from your network when you install this ;)
cheonic4040 18 minutes ago [-]
> The chinese will go and suck in all of your laptop and everything else from your network when you install this ;)
So will western countries.
At least chinese offers 95% of the quality at 10% of the price.
smitty1110 21 minutes ago [-]
Just put your trust in Big Winnie and all will be fine.
Shin-- 45 minutes ago [-]
I installed it on my laptop and it immediately vanished. I am sure Xi is browsing the hard drive right now.
Bluestein 53 minutes ago [-]
Facebook? (But they get the money ...)
kvirani 1 hours ago [-]
I don't get it
rapind 1 hours ago [-]
I think they’re saying they would rather use Muse or Dots.
npn 55 minutes ago [-]
He thinks his ideas are still valuable and wants to sell them somehow.
scuppernong 2 hours ago [-]
https://frontierharness.org/ allegedly this is on the Pareto frontier, though I don't know how good of a benchmark this really is. it seems to focus on one-shot type tasks, whereas the real utility of one harness over another seems to make itself known in long running tasks.
also this is a very limited static snapshot with one model as backend, I wish there were more consistently refreshed and diversified harness benchmarks.
ssivark 1 hours ago [-]
This page doesn't emphasize the cordis architecture [1], but that's the most exciting thing about this -- not just yet another harness. It has the potential to make this into something like the emacs of harnesses! I think this might be particularly potent for long-running agents.
The binaries are from china. Your data goes to china. The self-updating plugin system is vulnerable to malicious llm provider. Anyone using this is crazy!
glenpierce 42 seconds ago [-]
Is there a safer alternative? It’s not like I can trust OpenAI since they’ve proven that they’ll steal research from mathematicians. X is run by a sociopath. Anthropic is going to IPO so who can say how long they’ll be trustworthy…
sampullman 18 minutes ago [-]
What if I use it in an isolated environment and only work on open source code with it?
quyleanh 2 hours ago [-]
DSH still in preview but works flawlessly. Update also very quick.
With the preview of official app, hope team will add remote connection soon.
Scarbutt 1 hours ago [-]
You can run it in server mode according to the docs.
I'd probably check it out if it was actually called 'YAH Harness' and not [insert Chinese AI lab here] Harness
Zambyte 1 hours ago [-]
You don't have to use it. I don't use it. I still think it's really cool, and I've been thinking of trying to take ideas from it and integrate it into my own workflow. In particular, the session visualization tooling.
jamienk 2 hours ago [-]
My suspicion is that getting a big binary with full permissions is the goal here. Harnesses will only run their companion models and will demand your Contacts list.
neya 2 hours ago [-]
> I'm DeepSeek Harness, an open-source harness from DeepSeek built on Cordis's “everything is a plugin” architecture.
This new title says nothing, we already know deepseek harness from before, this is a new product, an installable app worth differentiating from just "DeepSeek Harness"
All settings and workspaces are transferred so you don't lose anything, the only thing it lacks is a way to increase/decrease font size with cmd + and cmd - so I'll work on a plugin for that
I can't be happier
Edit: Asked DSH for a plugin to increase/decrease font and it delivered. Love it. Then asked for a plugin to ring a bell on questions and tasks finished, of course it delivered flawlessly. The same plugin architecture, extensible by the same AI
I'm not sure what you mean by it's a beast.
A marketplace, where the different intelligence agencies could evaluate the value of my digital stuff and then offer me something (like a $5 gift card to Olive Garden), would be really nice.
Reminds me of some magic device from childrens book, don't remember its name, was like a glass ball where you could see what other people are up to
So will western countries.
At least chinese offers 95% of the quality at 10% of the price.
also this is a very limited static snapshot with one model as backend, I wish there were more consistently refreshed and diversified harness benchmarks.
[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.25512
With the preview of official app, hope team will add remote connection soon.
https://github.com/deepseek-ai/deepseek-harness/blob/master/...
https://github.com/deepseek-ai/deepseek-harness/blob/master/...
I'd probably check it out if it was actually called 'YAH Harness' and not [insert Chinese AI lab here] Harness