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grey-area 53 minutes ago [-]
Why does it say ‘written by’ and ‘pictures by’, was this made without AI? Given the domain and the overpolished feel that seems unlikely. At least give Claude or whatever a credit if that is what did most of the work, and how about a credit for the original author, who also arguably did more of the work in inventing a world than these two.
I would like to point out that the original stories focussed on frog and toad and their relationship, so this is an unwelcome distortion of them - why not make up your own world if you want to talk about little machines. Perhaps the little machines could be making a book for the author with a stolen artwork and literary style?
The first story seems a pretty inaccurate summary of an incident which involved gross negligence on the part of OpenAI and may well have involved agents intended to cooperate, we just have no idea of the exact setup (apart from that the sandboxing was laughably insecure and the monitoring nonexistent or performed by ‘agents’).
Do we have any evidence the machines exchanged useful messages or had any such discussions as in the story? The messages I saw were gibberish. Would love to see evidence of discussions, it’d be interesting.
Why are people so enamoured of analogies for LLMs - they actively obscure some details (a sandbox with internet access is not like a physical sandbox) and distort many others? Perhaps this is why - you can make an analogy say whatever you want, even if the facts are very different.
TuringTux 18 minutes ago [-]
According to the author, the illustrations are human-made:
I think the actual published prose is considerably different from the initial result of Claude.
grey-area 2 minutes ago [-]
I think it is too because it reads more as human than AI, LLMs are not capable of this coherence though they are good at trite just so stories like this. But Claude and the original author helped, so why no credit? The little anthropomorphised machines would be sad, and I imagine the original author would be too.
Frog and toad eating cookies is lifted wholesale from the book.
I like how Claude only used the OpenAI account (completely reliable!), and confidently claims ‘the story stays faithful to what actually happened.’ We don’t know the full story, and certainly aren’t going to get it from a press release or a strange analogy involving frog and toad and machines having discussions, emotions etc that we have ZERO evidence for. The ‘discussions’ are plucked from chain of thought, which is itself generated after the fact.
dragon96 46 minutes ago [-]
> Why does it say ‘written by’ and ‘pictures by’, was this made without AI?
That is what those terms mean, yes...
grey-area 43 minutes ago [-]
People lie, particularly people who have used AI to generate things. Given the image styling I suspect LLM use to generate. A credit would be nice for the little machines.
Also regardless of AI use, I’d expect a credit for the author whose style this is a pastiche of.
mjd 5 hours ago [-]
For those not familiar with it already, the writing and art style are a well-executed pastiche of Arnold Lobel's ”Frog and Toad” books.
has the estate of arnold lobel been compensated for this?
carsoon 59 minutes ago [-]
This is a very interesting news/story format. Honestly it is highly engaging and gets the point across about what happened.
I think speed of learning for young generation can explode given this tech as "simple childrens stories" can be injected with real world events, history, mathematics, carreer/business interests.
School was dreadfully boring for me even though it was quite easy but I do wonder how my speed of learning would have been different given personalized and more engaging materials.
apsurd 45 minutes ago [-]
i got a few pages in and it was pretty tedious, not because it’s poorly made but because i don’t think a legitimate audience exists.
it’s a child’s story with the fable arc thats supposed to bake in adult wisdom. it lands in that sense, but how hugging face works is hardly the fire that lights a child’s imagination and morality.
and as an adult that knows I’m being infantilized… tedious.
jmugan 4 hours ago [-]
Great story! I read it in one sitting.
kibibu 1 hours ago [-]
congratulations?
sgammon 3 hours ago [-]
fun and beautifully done. i learned a bit about the breach from this
marktl 3 hours ago [-]
So good
devindotcom 3 hours ago [-]
fun story. missing some punctuation, though: primarily commas at the end the first parts of split dialogue.
avazhi 2 hours ago [-]
Pretty sure that’s intentional
djriley 6 hours ago [-]
Cute, I love this style! It's like a long Aesop's Fable! I can't wait for the sequel!
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technojamin 2 hours ago [-]
This feels braindead and seems AI-generated.
dodecacat 6 hours ago [-]
Brilliant!
ghostpepper 3 hours ago [-]
I like the part where Frog and Toad are held accountable instead of blaming the machines they built.. oh wait
rnddmmdmf 3 hours ago [-]
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jldugger 58 minutes ago [-]
I'm not gonna lie, when I read Frog and Toad stories as a child I had no idea they were not like a hundred years old.
margalabargala 2 hours ago [-]
I like how AI gives more people more access to more things and more ideas. I think it's.good people can't hoard intellectual.porperty to themselves anymore. This makes me happy.
When I hear people complain about theft of their work like this it makes me sad for that person. What conceit it must take to hold such a view.
rnddmmdmf3 8 minutes ago [-]
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nvme0n1p1 2 hours ago [-]
One is done for profit, the other was shared for free to spread joy. Surely you understand the difference? Are you suggesting fan fiction should be illegal or something?
I would like to point out that the original stories focussed on frog and toad and their relationship, so this is an unwelcome distortion of them - why not make up your own world if you want to talk about little machines. Perhaps the little machines could be making a book for the author with a stolen artwork and literary style?
The first story seems a pretty inaccurate summary of an incident which involved gross negligence on the part of OpenAI and may well have involved agents intended to cooperate, we just have no idea of the exact setup (apart from that the sandboxing was laughably insecure and the monitoring nonexistent or performed by ‘agents’).
Do we have any evidence the machines exchanged useful messages or had any such discussions as in the story? The messages I saw were gibberish. Would love to see evidence of discussions, it’d be interesting.
Why are people so enamoured of analogies for LLMs - they actively obscure some details (a sandbox with internet access is not like a physical sandbox) and distort many others? Perhaps this is why - you can make an analogy say whatever you want, even if the facts are very different.
https://acesounderglass.com/2026/09/25/frog-and-toad-and-the...
The author discloses the story started as a prompt to Claude, but has been rewritten. She shares the conversation:
https://claude.ai/share/52385381-9df2-4b39-a127-f583d862dc0c
I think the actual published prose is considerably different from the initial result of Claude.
Frog and toad eating cookies is lifted wholesale from the book.
I like how Claude only used the OpenAI account (completely reliable!), and confidently claims ‘the story stays faithful to what actually happened.’ We don’t know the full story, and certainly aren’t going to get it from a press release or a strange analogy involving frog and toad and machines having discussions, emotions etc that we have ZERO evidence for. The ‘discussions’ are plucked from chain of thought, which is itself generated after the fact.
That is what those terms mean, yes...
Also regardless of AI use, I’d expect a credit for the author whose style this is a pastiche of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_and_Toad
I think speed of learning for young generation can explode given this tech as "simple childrens stories" can be injected with real world events, history, mathematics, carreer/business interests.
School was dreadfully boring for me even though it was quite easy but I do wonder how my speed of learning would have been different given personalized and more engaging materials.
it’s a child’s story with the fable arc thats supposed to bake in adult wisdom. it lands in that sense, but how hugging face works is hardly the fire that lights a child’s imagination and morality.
and as an adult that knows I’m being infantilized… tedious.
When I hear people complain about theft of their work like this it makes me sad for that person. What conceit it must take to hold such a view.